god damn burnie shit okay who we fuckin up
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god damn burnie shit okay who we fuckin up
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Hi nostalgebraist, <3 The Northern Caves and am glad to see two more chapters posted since I started reading it! (The fandom depicted, as well as the increasing psychological effect of the in-story novels on their readers so far, remind me oddly of Umineko fandom. Though I am sure many different fandoms resemble the in-story one as well—which was it based on, I wonder? The message board posts have an air of authenticity about them that feels like it came from personal experience.)
Hi, glad you’re enjoying it!
The details of the forum interactions are inspired by my experience on a few video game-related message boards as a teenager in the mid-2000s, one for console and computer RPGs in general, and one specifically about Xenogears and Xenosaga. The differences of opinion within the fandom and other broader elements were inspired most directly by the Xenogears / Xenosaga fandom and Homestuck fandom.

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my god, it’s a specimen of the extremely rare “homestuck / ada or ardor poster” species
this brings me back to when i first joined tumblr and met eudaemaniacal
whenever i say i like homestuck i get people jumpin all over themselves to let me know im trash and i never see people doing that over, like, the avengers and other joss wheddon stuff. i wonder why. this isnt like me hinting i know why i dont know why im wondering.
is it because it’s mostly a teen girl thing while joss is Man Stuff? idk I’m spitballing
It’s mostly because Homestuck is bad but constantly hyped up
is joss man stuff? I totally thought he was a teen girl thing
is homestuck a teen girl thing? i thought it was a teen boy thing
i’m not a teen or a boy but i’m hella into homestuck
I think Homestuck is a somewhat gender neutral teen thing but has a fandom with a bad reputation (as some other rebloggers have mentioned)
I think what makes Homestuck special is that it’s hyped up for both good and bad reasons (I was very very surprised by how much it “lived up to the hype” but then I went in with low expectations), and the fandom spans a whole range of quality, and so it easily creates “how are you into this bad thing for obnoxious kids” reaction
It’s good and it’s bad and it has good fans and bad fans, and this is true of many things, but with Homestuck the range is unusually large, because the actual work covers an unusually large range of quality levels and appeals to an unusually large range of demographics
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I have noticed that recently (in the last year or so?) I have had more and more moments in which I feel surprised that fictional characters are not real people. That is, I’ll think explicitly about the fact that some fictional character isn’t real, and instead of feeling like an obvious truth, this will feel strange or wrong
I wonder what caused this change
(ETA: although come to think of it, I definitely remember feeling this way about Homestuck characters, back in my peak Homestuck Trash phase [late 2011 and early 2012])
wow uh, Uhm. this persons like, 14 right?
Now that you mention it, that is is both (1) likely, and (2) what I should assume until proven otherwise so I can stop being annoyed by their post
man this hussie callout post is so bad it’s, like, on a whole other level
Mom Lalonde and Rose’s relationship isn’t much better, with Mom Lalonde being an alcoholic who tries to win Rose over with presents of things she doesn’t want; when Mom is killed, Rose and the narrative imply it’s her fault for not being a good enough kid
sorry rose but feeling guilty while in a state of acute grief is Incorrect, please get with the program
Look, uh, if you want to make an Andrew Hussie callout post, there are a lot of good places you could go with that, but
“I can’t even understand where to begin with Caliborn, a sexist, hateful, author-insert”
is not one of them
For the record I don’t think Hussie’s reasons for writing anything are inscrutable at all. He basically just writes whatever he thinks is interesting and funny. The fact that what he thinks is interesting and funny sometimes lines up with good taste and good ideas and sometimes very much doesn’t is really pretty normal for writers in general, honestly. Especially privileged writers
I guess what I mean is that he has such a strange sense of humor that some of the things he writes as “jokes” might as well be good, serious writing from my perspective. E.g. I could be making this up, but I seem to remember him describing the “K8LL M8″ scene as “hilarious” at some point, and that confusing even the most staunch “Homestuck is for the lulz”-type posters on the forum.
The more I paid attention to Hussie’s description of his own work, the more I got the sense that anything in it that didn’t strike me as funny was probably intended as “””dark humor””” or something. Which at a certain point becomes kind of like inventing the theory of relativity ironically. If an event in the story moves people to tears, then it has the power to move people to tears, even if it was actually “just a joke” in some obscure or macabre way.
Well, Hussie has explicitly said that things can be a joke and good, serious writing at the same time. I don’t think literally everything he writes is intended to be “just a joke” even if the majority of it is intended to be at least partly a joke.
But really I think his absolute worst writing is also his least inscrutable. This is why I felt it was a weird thing for you to say. Because, like. The fact that part of what went into “K8LL M8″ for Hussie is humorous is a little weird, but that scene is a good scene. Whereas every time Gamzee shows up in Act 6 and ruins the story by being awful and out of character, you can practically HEAR Andrew chuckling to himself and going “This is some seriously funny shit!” Same with CAUCASIAN - when he’s at his worst, it’s pretty transparently obvious it’s because he thinks he just wrote a really Hilarious and Edgy Joke.
Yeah, no, that’s totally true. A lot of his worst writing falls into the category of “it’s funny because it’s a reference,” without there being anything there but the reference. Anything involving Gamzee is supposed to be automatically funny because he’s been established as “funny character,” that sort of thing.
I remember having a conversation with Hussie on the forum during the whole “ICP takes over the world” section, where I said it wasn’t funny to me, and he explained that the humor was supposed to come from the fact that ICP had become associated with Homestuck in the reader’s mind, to the point that mentioning ICP in Homestuck was now inherently funny. (I’m paraphrasing it uncharitably, but it was something like that.) And that’s just like … such a clear summation of what’s wrong with his sense of humor.
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