peopleneedaplacetogo asked: "#like people talk a lot about toxic masculinity but i hear so little about what to *do* about it" What do you think can/should be done about it?
Honestly, I don’t know and it seems like a very tough question to me. I think if there were more writing and discussion about it, some good ideas might rise to the surface that I would eventually notice, and I was expressing annoyance that this hasn’t happened?
Although that’s just passing the buck to other people, and if everyone did that, nothing would get done. But there are people who spend much, much more time thinking and writing about this kind of thing than I do, so I think “it’s not my job” is a sensible response for me in particular to make.
I also make some assumptions that may not be widely shared. I think that it’s currently infeasible (perhaps infeasible in general, but I’m not as sure) to get anywhere near a society that doesn’t have a large number of men in absolute terms (as opposed “relative to the total number of men”) with strong impulses towards Fight Club / Project Mayhem type stuff that doesn’t exist in socially sanctioned form outside of the military and maybe pro sports. I’m not sure exactly how to define the category of stuff I’m talking about, but it feels like there is one. I think we need to assume a roughly constant supply of “these kinds of guys” in the short term and ask how to channel their energies in the best way for society.
In other words, I think there are better and worse rules these guys can play while still being people who simply wouldn’t get along with the average feminist, and feminist writing often collapses these possibilities. There’s a lot of feminist writing that’s quite sympathetic to men, but often it’s on the grounds that “many men aren’t actually ‘these guys,’ and just act like them sometimes because the surrounding culture expects them to.” That’s probably true, but I still want to talk in terms of how guys who are, one way or another, going to be (so to speak) Brad Pitt characters might end up better rather than worse Brad Pitt characters.




